Another Writing Site: Factoidz

| April 8, 2010

Please read the update at the bottom of this post.

I recently came across another freelance writing site called Factoidz. It’s an online revenue sharing site. It’s a relatively young site, but it seems to be growing rather nicely.  Here are a few of the stats:

Site Domain Name Registered: 7/5/2008
Current Page rank: 4
Current Alexa Rank: 27,921

Factoidz is unlike Bukisa or Associated Content does not automatically approve new writer applications. Similar to Suite 101, you have to apply, provide writing samples and select areas of expertise. You are not pigeon holed into writing articles strictly in your areas of expertise. It’s just Factoidz’ way of getting a general idea of the type of content to expect.

After submitting an application, it takes a few days for the Factoidz staff to review and approve your application.

Writer Levels at Factoidz

Upon acceptance writers carry the title “Factoidz Writer.” Initially all articles are reviewed by the Factoidz staff prior to publication. Over time, the editors review each writer’s body of work and some writers are promoted to Staff Writer. Staff Writers enjoy the benefits of having their articles automatically published (no need for editor approval) and a bio at the end of each article which can include one link. To be considered for a Staff Level position you must have a minimum of 20 published articles.

How to Make Money at Factoidz

Writers make money on a combination of page views, ad revenue and article popularity. As with any online content writing site, the more legitimate traffic the articles get, the more money you make. Although Factoidz does not set a minimum article count requirement like Suite 101 or Examiner does, we all know by now that the more you write, the more you earn.

Factoidz also has a referral program. The way it works is that the referrer will receive $10 for each referred writer that reaches the Staff Writer level upgrade (of course the links I place here are referral links so if you sign up I’ll get credit).

How and When Factoidz Pays

Payment is made towards the end of the month via PayPal. When I signed up to become a writer, I was not asked for a social security number, so I would assume that this opportunity is open to international writers also.

My Initial Opinion of Factoidz

I have yet to write an article for Factoidz but I was impressed with the professionalism of their application process and the layout of the writer’s dashboard. Factoidz has moved up a notch on my “To Do” list. Will it replace the eHow void? I don’t know, but I think I’m going to have fun trying to find out.

Post Update 1/26/2011:

There has been much debate and controversy on this blog regarding Factoidz.  Personally, I wrote one article for Factoidz, but have not written any since.  There is a 6-month deactivation stipulation with Factoidz.  If you fail to write anything for 6 months your writer status is downgraded to Member status.  Along with the downgrade go your earnings.

Since my ultimate goal is to spend less time on the internet (not more time writing), I’ve decided not to write for Factoidz.  Please take the time to read both sides of the story when it comes to writing for Factoidz and draw your own conclusion.

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Felicia A. Williams is a freelance writer and blogger. She spends the majority of her time with her family and writing. If she's not writing or commenting on NJFM, she's either outside smelling the roses or writing articles for one of her other sites which include Tidbits and Stuff, BLULOW, A Dose of Health and a few other sites/blogs scattered around the internet.

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  1. Julie Hume says:

    I never called Factoidz a Ponzi scheme nor made any racial slurs against Michael Quoc (and I have not seen any such comments elsewhere). I don’t recall any article of mine contained advertorial or affiliate links of any kind. You could perhaps take a stand against the quality of my writing but that would be subjective and when I was there I had good placement in humor and pregnancy related channels. Possibly others. I can’t remember.

    My problems stemmed from the impossibility of getting a direct answer from admin – on just about anything; changes to TOS and the removal of awkward questions (related to payments, statistics and traffic)from the forum.

    As he has been gracious enough to make an appearance here I’d like to ask Mike how I violated the TOS and why he will not,’as a professional courtesy’, remove my content.

    There are others who had bad experiences at Factoidz. Some are carrying on correspondance with him directly, others have retreated to regroup and others have like me, simply chalked it up to bad experience and more or less moved on. Most are not talking about it here.

    I don’t have the time or inclination to chase Factoidz through the courts for the ha’pennies MQ makes on the articles of mine that are still up there. I do feel I was taken to the cleaners though and I think it is fair enough to voice that if for no other reason than to let other writers know to be on their guard if they decide to write at Factoidz.

    Most especially I’d like them to consider how ethical the site must be in the first place when it ripped its own TOS practically verbatim from another writing site and that once you have published an article on Factoidz, you will never be able to get it taken down. That means should you decide to leave, MQ retains your articles and all revenue from them. Forever.

    If you wanted to resubmit your best pieces to any other writing site you could not if the new site wanted exclusivity. Generally those are the writing sites that pay the best money.

    So overall, it is great that FZ has worked out well for you, Amanda. In saying so here you help balance the debate. However, it did not work out well for me, for Sara, and Kaylar and for others who are not presently participating in this thread.

    • Felicia says:

      I think this post and its comments have given enough information on both sides of the Factoidz debate. It provides enough information and links to information for anyone considering writing for Facrtoidz.

      This thread is now closed to further comments.

  2. Amanda says:

    Hi, I found the Google Group: Factoidzvictims. I guess they are still waiting for people to join.

    Kaylar, I saw that you and A.Fool posted this same Ponzi warning on Bukisa and Triond a while ago. Personally, I thought that the fact that you posted Michael’s photo and used racial slurs about his Asian heritage to be a bit offensive. If you have a problem with Factoidz, why not take legal action, or at least report it to the better bus bureau?

    I’m a long time writer with Factoidz with over 150 articles there, and never had a problem. There were times when they changed their setup and people were upset at some of those changes, but never have they done anything wrong or unethical.

    I also vaguely remember Sara Valor on Factoidz, and she did post many advertorial pieces which I thought was inappropriate for the site. It appears that some writers are spreading some negative rumours about the site. Too bad, because Factoidz is actually a pretty professionally run site, and I earn more there than on other sites.

    Just my two cents.

  3. Factoidz Victim says:

    There is a Group on Facebook; fairly new, called Factoidz Victims which is open, so people can continue this discussion.

  4. kaylar says:

    What Mike says is not true. People didn’t do anything to be dropped to Member; they just wrote some really good stuff that he didn’t want to pay for.

    The earnings on Factoidz are less than on Triond. With Triond you get the site pay plus adsense. I usually make between $15 – $20 on Triond and usually $20 – $25 on Adsense for the same articles.

    Most sites tell you how much per view; i.e. 6 hits = 1c. Not Factoidz. Secondly, there are no ‘low’ and ‘high’ hits. If you write in Gomestic you know it is 6 hits = 1c.
    If you write in Telewatcher it is 20 hits = 1c. So you know before you put finger to keyboard.

  5. Thanks, Felicia. I’m a little sad that base earnings (pageview earnings) went down a bit, even after adding a few new articles, but it wasn’t many new articles added, and this can happen on any writing site, if writers do not bother to keep marketing their articles from time to time. This has been/is an interesting thread, and your site is very useful. Keep up the good work.

  6. I last commented in this thread on 8 October. I joined Factoidz in late July, and after seeing the thread of comments here said I would still stick around to see how it goes. I’m still on Factoidz although haven’t had much time to add many new articles.

    Joined late July and added 2 articles
    activity earnings $1.11 base earnings $0.21 total $1.32

    End of August 2010
    previous 2 articles plus 6 new ones
    activity earnings $2.45 base earnings $0.89 total $3.34
    (the previous comment I left I said total $4.41 my error)

    End of September
    previous 8 plus 10 new
    A $3.55 B $1.30 total $4.94

    End of October
    previous 18 plus 8 new
    A $3.33 B $2.21 total $5.54

    End of November
    previous 26 plus 3 new
    A $0.97 B $1.92 total $2.89

    End of December
    previous 29 plus 1 new
    A $0.30 B $1.82 total $2.12

    I received all these amounts in my PayPal account at the end of each month.

    I’m fairly happy on Factoidz. I just once emailed them to confirm if the republishing time period allowed was 3 days later or 30 days later as the site mentioned both in two different places, and never got a reply, but to be on the safe side I just republished my articles elsewhere only 30 days later, but was also curious to know if anybody had their accounts suspended for republishing elsewhere after only 3 days. It is clearer now, that one should definitely only republish articles after 30 days, as it says so when you are about to publish an article, but having two different rules in two different places on the site earlier was confusing.

    Also, it would be nice if there was a forum of sorts, where simple questions could be answered quickly by other members. I believe there used to be a forum before I joined.

    Round about the end of the month and for a few days after, earnings do seem to go up and down while the system settles into the new month, and I do noit consider that earnings are true until about the 7th or 8th of the month, so as not to wind up upset.

    Otherwise, I have not had any major problems with Factoidz and I enjoy the site, and will be publishing more articles there.

    Regards Mike Quoc’s comment about people having their status reduced due to writing non factual articles is permanent or if they get a chance to again build up to staff writer.

    • Felicia says:

      Thanks for your input Teresa. It helps to shed some light on Factoidz. As far as the reduction in status, I’m not sure. Hopefully someone from Factoidz can answer that question.

  7. Felicia says:

    I feel compelled to add a comment here regarding Sara Valor and Mike Quoc’s comment. For the record, Sara Valor vehemently disagrees with Mike’s comment and is standing firm that she did not violate Factoidz’ TOS.

    I don’t know what actually happened between Sara Valor, Factoidz and Mike Quoc, only they know for sure.

    When writing for a content site that you do not own, you’ve always got to remember that he who owns the sandbox gets to make the rules. If you don’t like the rules, pick up your toys and find another sandbox. Better yet, get a box, fill it with sand and create your own sandbox.

    As freelance writers, we have to make our own decision on when to stay and when to walk away.

  8. Mike says:

    Hello everyone, this is Michael Quoc, the operator of Factoidz. I was quite surprised and a bit horrified to see this discussion about our site! We take our users’ feedback seriously, and while are admittedly not 100% perfect, we try our best to ensure a great experience for everyone.

    I wanted to shed some light on some and provide some context to some of the comments being expressed here. One complaint we’re hearing is that Writers are upset that they lose their Writer status on Factoidz due to inactivity. Factoidz maintains a policy that Writers must be active and publish at least one article every 6 months to keep their Writer status. We have chosen to have an aggressive payout program for articles our writers publish, and in exchange we set a high bar which includes strict content quality requirements, an application process to become a Writer, and requirements to remain active with us to keep your Writer badge.

    Our system might not be a good fit for everyone, but the writers who are active with us love us, and many have been with us for over 2 years, since we first started.

    Some of the more negative posts here are from users who violated the Factoidz Terms of Service. Specifically, Sara_Valor was once a loyal user who violated our terms for including promotional ads in her articles. After repeated warnings we suspended her account. She asked that we delete all of her content, and we obliged as a professional courtesy. It seems, however that she is still unhappy and has been writing dozens of negative articles about us. Sara, we ask that you address your issue with us through the Better Business Bureau so we can have an open and fair to your complaints. It is difficult to have a fair resolution when you are not addressing us directly, but on blogs and articles around the web.

    Other users have lost Writer privileges by publishing articles of non-factual nature, which is in opposition to our editorial guidelines. The bottom line is, we have a certain set of guidelines to ensure the best site experience, and writers must adhere to those to keep their accounts. Any other professional writing site will have the same set of rules.

    I do sincerely feel bad if *anyone* has a negative experience with us. Our goal is to provide a very high quality experience for our writers and our readers, and to make it possible to writers to actually earn a decent income from writing. Unfortunately, this means we have to maintain some tough standards across the site, which may make some people unhappy.

    I would suggest that anyone who has heard anything negative about Factoidz come see it with your own eyes and ask some of the writers who have been there for a long time and get their perspectives.

    In our effort to continuously improve the site, we have recently launched many new features, including upfront bonuses for all content published as well as Product Review assignments which pay up to $20 upfront in addition to traffic based earnings. With these new changes, writers on Factoidz can earn even more than they have in the past for doing what they love most – writing and sharing knowledge.

    Felicia, if you need an account upgrade, please stop by and let me know through the contact box. I will personally ensure you get your upgrade.

    To any other writers on Factoidz – if you have lost your Writer status due to inactivity, you will see a message when you login to your account along with a link to restart your account. Please remember to post new content at least once every 6 months to keep your account active.


    • Felicia says:

      Mike, thanks for taking the time to read the comments and address our concerns.

      You’ve posted quite a bit of information and it will take me a bit to digest it all. It sounds like you have made some positive changes. I’ll review the information and revisit my Factoidz account this week. It sounds like it might be worth giving Factoidz another try.

  9. MrsB says:

    I just applied to this place, then, before publishing anything, stumbled across your blog. You just saved me from making a horrible mistake! Thanks!!
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  10. Julie Hume says:

    I wrote a number of articles for Factoidz and then started asking a number of questions in the forum. It became obvious that tricky questions were being ignored or blatently deleted. Tricky questions like… why was money deducted from my account?

    In the end I deleted all my articles but Quoc just reuploaded them and removed my member name – those that he could anyway. Some he did not have archived so could not republish. So now, my articles are up on his site, he is earning money on them and I don’t even have a credit. Look:

    It doesn’t look like there is anything I can do about it either. I gave up trying TBH, I’ve got more to do with my time than worry about this piece of pond slime. I just want to add my voice to those warning others off. If you are thinking of writing for Factoidz – don’t. You’ll get screwed.
    Julie Hume recently posted..Obscure Tenerife Beauty- Hiding in Plain Sight

  11. kaylar says:

    The phone num. is a cell. there’s addresses in San Fransico and Pacifica

    You do a Zabasearch. There are a number of Quoc’s seem to be a Vietnamese family.

  12. kaylar says:

    Imagine this is a publishing site. Hundreds of people post articles. There is One (1) Employee? One(1) person? Yah. This is further proof that all Factoidz exists for is to make Quoc rich.

  13. kaylar says:

    Name: Factoidz
    Phone: (415) 298-1803
    Address: San Francisco, CA 94110
    Original Business Start Date: October 2008
    Principal: Mr. Michael L. Quoc, CEO
    Customer Contact: Mr. Michael L. Quoc, CEO – (415) 298-1803
    Email Address:
    Entity: Sole Proprietor
    Employees: 1
    Type of Business: Publishers – Directory & Guide

  14. kaylar says:

    Just about all the Cheerleaders in May are now Members. And the revenue has gone so far down, it’s senseless. Even Triond pays more.

  15. Wendy says:

    Wow, Felicia thanks for posting your original article and to you and everyone for the follow-up feedback. I just found a link for Factoidz on a reputable job-posting site and before finding this string expected it to be a valid service. One thing that made me slightly wary is that the ‘About’ section includes no tangible information about the company, who is behind it, where they are located, how long they have been established, no personal voice. Thanks to these comments I won’t consider writing for them, but I’m glad I discovered this great blog :)
    Wendy recently posted..Elegant paper sculptures from Jeff Nishinaka

  16. Sara Valor says:

    Found this, the link to file a complaint with the BBB

    *Sorry about the extra post Felicia, I didn’t think about this until after posting the last.

  17. Sara Valor says:

    I just found this in Google search, it is something brand new, just a few weeks old, a covering of butt no doubt.

    I’d recommend all the Factoidz writers who find themselves in this situation to contact every resource available to them.

    Also, you can contact not only the BBB (and you really should consider doing so), but the
    American Civil Liberties Union

    California Attorney General Website

    Here is a Sample of Compliant Letter for the site above

    *I am also posting this info as a hubpage comment, and continuing here with this comment so they are not both duplicate comments.

    It seems that many writers do not know what to do or how to handle this. I simply did some research and found all sorts of info about the way Factoidz was handling the writers and rather than allow Factoidz have the control of my situation, I took control of my own copyrights and made him take them down and delete my account by telling him I would never shut up about my experiences with the site, he didn’t want that so he let me go.

    I’m suppose to shut up now about it. In some sense, I will, I got what I wanted, which was my right. So, I’m sitting still kinda, as far as my own work goes, but if I see that another writer needs some useful info or resources, I will not shut up for helping them if I can.